About Weather

Weather drives every voyage departure decision we make.   Many boaters are unaware of the weather tools available on the internet.  They are for the general public – free or for a minimally priced subscription.    We educate and inform boaters  – that are interested – every chance we get. It isn’t difficult, and a little insight goes a long way into understanding the reported information.

“In the beginning” of our cruising on DESERT VENTURE, in lieu of a high frequency radio fax machine, we either printed or downloaded what we could to our computers before departure, then upon arrival in each port we hoofed it to the library – or free internet cafe, to check conditions and update our information.  Since 2004 we use a Verizon Aircard to get information from the internet.  We have connectivity on most of the United States west coast and SE Alaska.   We used a Mexican Telcel Banda Ancha Aircard while in Mexico last year. In areas where there was no cell service our external WiFi antenna was very useful.  We had excellent service on much of the outside of the Baja Peninsula.  We are so dedicated to going comfortably the cost of the service pays for itself in peace of mind and safe, comfortable cruising.

To be certain, our selected sites are a few, among many.  However, we’ve had success and have confidence – in general, with the information produced.  It is as good as is possible considering the nature of weather.  The best scenario is that as potentially good weather draws near, the different weather services agree.  It doesn’t always happen that way.

A good example was  Spring 2010, when we were planning our departure of the Columbia River, headed north toward our summer cruising grounds.  None of the services agreed that morning, with forecasts from excellent to “no-go”.  Okay, fine.  Which one do we trust?  We went – the bar was no problem, but the ocean was a mess with very disorganized waves which created a washing machine effect.  We turned around, went back across the bar and waited one day.  The next day was great.

Another contradictory example was the fall of 2011.  We were in Cabo San Lucas and planned to cross the Sea of Cortez.  That morning we downloaded all our favorite weather sites.  All of them agreed it would be flat with no wind. We had time to make it into Banderas Bay before weather set in.  On that occasion it was never flat – even on departure.  It built throughout the day and stayed up until morning the next day.  We changed course to keep the weather on our stern.  Landing in Mazatlan, instead of Banderas Bay.

Buoy Weather

We subscribe to Buoy Weather.   You can view it at no charge – two days at a time.  We pay an annual fee for the service and get 7 day forecasts.  You can create virtual buoys, anywhere in the world, and get a forecast based on the location.  They offer email updates, if desired.

This forecast was a definite No-Go.
Home The Global Marine Forecasting Solution

Marine Forecast for 46.25º N / 124.25º W

“Astoria”

greenflag.gif Conditions suitable for most marine activities
yellowflag.gif Caution. Small craft advisory
redflag.gif Hazardous conditions. Use extreme caution

7 Day Marine Forecast

Model Cycle 2010 APR 24 06Z Time Zone: GMT – 7 Hours

Saturday 4/24

Morning redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Large long period swell.
Winds: WSW 14 to 19 knots
Seas: WNW 13 feet at 13 sec.
Afternoon redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Very large long period swell.
Winds: WSW 11 to 15 knots
Seas: W 15 feet at 13 sec.
Sunday 4/25

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Light winds with a slight chop. Large long period swell.
Winds: SE 6 to 8 knots
Seas: WNW 10 feet at 12 sec.
Afternoon yellowflag.gif
Light and variable winds with smooth seas. Moderate long period swell.
Winds: SW 2 to 3 knots
Seas: W 8 feet at 11 sec.
Monday 4/26

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Gale warning with dangerous seas. Small craft advisory. Use extreme caution. Moderate long period swell.
Winds: SSE 26 to 35 knots
Seas: W 8 feet at 12 sec.
Afternoon redflag.gif
Very windy with large choppy seas. Small craft advisory. Large long period swell.
Winds: S 24 to 32 knots
Seas: WSW 15 feet at 11 sec.
Tuesday 4/27

Morning redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Large long period swell.
Winds: SW 14 to 19 knots
Seas: WSW 12 feet at 10 sec.
Afternoon redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Large long period swell.
Winds: WSW 13 to 18 knots
Seas: WSW 12 feet at 10 sec.
Wednesday 4/28

Morning redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Large long period swell.
Winds: WSW 11 to 14 knots
Seas: W 13 feet at 13 sec.
Afternoon redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Large long period swell.
Winds: WNW 13 to 17 knots
Seas: W 14 feet at 12 sec.
Thursday 4/29

Morning redflag.gif
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Large long period swell.
Winds: SW 12 to 16 knots
Seas: W 11 feet at 11 sec.
Afternoon redflag.gif
Windy conditions with choppy seas. Small craft advisory. Large long period swell.
Winds: SSW 19 to 26 knots
Seas: W 10 feet at 11 sec.

Wind & Wave Forecast

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I like this service because it is very visual and easy to understand.  It becomes very clear if it is a “Go” , or “No Go”  day.

National Weather Service – NOAA Marine Forecast

This link at NWS Marine Forecast gives a text description of the forecast.

US Navy Mil Weather – Unclassified

This public site -  US Navy site – FNMOC WXMAP – gives data up to 180 hours out.  If you receive a “Security Warning” confirm and move on through to the site.   We never have issues by adding the exception.   I left this note out originally since we have not seen the warning for some time, but occasionally someone gets the warning.

Choose from the “Global Models”/East Pacific/NGP.

Select “FNMOC Wave Watch 3 Sig Wave Heights..”,

then “Loop” at the beginning of the row.

There is no complete loop until all the time periods have a green dot out to 180 hours.    It runs in a very colorful loop over the 180 hour period.  Both wind and wave heights are displayed.   This is the tool we use to get our hopes up, as it shows potential good weather the furthest time out.   However, much can happen between now and 180 hours in the future.  It still gives us our best look at potential “go” conditions.  Black is best and the darker blues are very nice – though we might entertain conditions in the lighter blue colors, depending on wind and how long the conditions are forecast to last.

NOAA Marine Radiofax

Weather Radiofax Charts. This is the same information that is transmitted via high frequency out at sea – many boats receive this information via a HF Radiofax Machine.  We pull our information from the Point Reyes internet site for the west coast. Bruce looks at the Wind/Wave and Surface charts. When we are south of the American border he uses the Tropical Analysis. You can pull information from current time out to 96 hours. Choose the GIF option.

Passage Weather

[Added in 2010] Passage Weather.  This site offers a loop also.  You get Wave Height, Wind direction, and Pressure.  All of them can be downloaded and saved for future reference.  *This was our favored tool while crossing the Sea of Cortez in 2010/11.  It helped having the details available for review, and comparison of actual conditions, later when we had no internet connectivity.

Real Time Buoy Conditions

There are websites that give real-time  information from ocean buoys.   You can call the NDBC buoy – by phone, for current conditions, or go online.  This is a good way to see if what was forecast is really happening. For instance, when underway we checked buoys up ahead of us to see if the forecast conditions were holding.  We used this site coming down the west coast last fall.  It gives a quick visual of conditions -  Combined Current/Wave Buoy Conditions.  We modified our plans, when possible or necessary, based on the real time conditions reported up ahead.

As I mentioned earlier, there are many more sites than the ones we use.  It’s up to the cruiser to determine their limitations on the water.  Having the right tools makes those decisions easier. The important thing is to get the information – then make your voyaging plan.

Be safe and enjoy the voyage!

Responses

  1. Found your blog by accident, and wanted to thank you for sharing your weather sites. Immensely helpful. Two of them gave us a security warning as the sites’ don’t have “certificates”. Will look further into that and get back to you – one was the Navy weather and I forget which other one, but will get back to you later. Great blog – lots of work, as I’m learning!


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